Saturday, 10 December 2016

[PANN] 161209 honestly when I think about how BTS was treated a year ago ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ they were treated like f***ing nugus and they were slandered for winning awards and slandered again when they don't win any. They were really slandered to death when they didn't attend some place but now people stopped calling them nugus ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm so happy for them ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ and now since the haters don't have anything to complain about, I've seen them trying to attack them with weird things and honestly I think they're ridiculous. I guess it's all the same for people who slander idols but seriously you guys are especially harsh to BTS ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ you used to slander them because they were nugus and now you're slandering them with the most absurd things and as a longtime PANN user this is really hilarious ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

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Response +487 -75

1. You don't even have to go back 1 year. They used to call them nugus back in May too ㅋ whenever there was any post about BTS on the Selected Talk ranking, they'd comment "so who are they?" and the entire post would be seized by the trolls not just a few of them. They'd say things like "BTS is only a superstar to their fans" and then "nugus without no public recognition", etc it was just absurd... and when we replied to them they would go "you should reply to me after they get a Daesang". It was a ridiculous show. But suddenly the plagiarism accusation broke out... and they gave them so much attention even when they weren't a superstarㅠ well, but I think BTS is quite recognized now so.. anyway, fangirl/boy life should be a "my way" thing~^^! +120 -1

2. but honestly I think this is a stage that's gone through by idols who become big. This wasn't only for BTS +76 -3

3. they used to call them nugus and say "who are they?" but they know about BTS more than the fans and slander them with all sort of things ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ +64 -0

4. It's really funny when people comment "people around me don't know about BTS tho?", "I've not heard BTS's song playing in the streets?" ㅋㅋㅋㅋ they think what they think is the truth and they think their words can prove. I really can't understand people who want to generalize others with their own idea ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ they might not be interested in them and won't listen to their songs but why do they think this applies to everyone? Dance cover groups around me all cover FIRE or Blood Sweat & Tears +17 -0

5. but they're still slandered when they win awards and when they don't win anything too ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ what did they even do to deserve the hate +16 -3

6. I'm curious but isn't fans also the public? sh*t ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ +11 -0

7. I started PANN when I just joined BTS's fandom and so many slandered BTS calling them nugus. But since I NEED U in May, their fans kept increasing but antis increased more ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ now they don't slander them because they're "nugus" the haters now claim that BTS is cosplaying as Superstars ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I can't understand them +10 -0

[PANN] 161209 I'm from another fandom but I need to promote Suga's rap ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

okay I will promote him here without any long talks ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ARMYs, sorry

There might be people who haven't heard of it but no one has ever only listened to just once and that song is BTS Cypher (yup that's right) I think there are 4 of them currently and that's all I know ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ BTS's rapper line = Rap Mon, J Hope, Suga and they rap in the order too. Suga raps the final verse always. If you are interested in listening to this, I suggest you listen to Cypher 2 and 3. seriously, you will know what they mean by "nailing their words in your ears" ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ their lyrics address their haters and it's so addictive plus the hook too ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ha... seriously their rapping sound like they're flying in air? and you'll fall in love for real...ha.. f*ck was it Am I Wrong? The lyrics of that song was good too and I really love Suga seriously oh damn

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1. seriously other than Zico, I always judged idol rappers but I died when I heard his rap (shivers) After listening to Cypher 2 I quickly searched for other songs to listen. His mixtape released as Agust D was amazing and he's the person who shattered my prejudiced eyes after Zico and Song Minho +44 -1

2. In my opinion, I don't think there's anything that can win Cypher 3. You should listen to Cypher 2 if you want to listen to their rapping skills and Cypher 4 is the trendy one. But every Cypher has its own colors and first of all, it's f*cking addictive +20 -0

3. I love 3 the most. I don't know how many times I've been to Hong Kong after listening to that song;;; +8 -0

4. I recommend Suga's part in Cypher 4. That part makes me so good as if my heart's being squeezed ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Insta(gram) gang gang is the line of my life and it's f*cking sexy how he sounds breathless here... (wails) +7 -0

5. I think Suga needs the spotlight. He's buried too much +6 -0

[PANN] 161207 Heol BTS Jimin's hands are really tiny


[PANN] 161209 Male Celebrity Board in DC Gallery is the ARMY's den?

Hello. This is Instiz and Nate PANN BTS Fantalk.

We hope you will take a moment to read our post.

Before we start the post, we state that this was not written with the intention to slander another fandom with malicious intents.

This post is the summary written by "some" fans on Nate PANN, and other fandoms and BTS fandom who were involved in this incident are victims.

We did not add any of our opinions into this post. This is just a summary of the words that were said on Nate PANN.

We will explain the reason behind writing this post.

1) Regarding Male Celebrity Board (DC Gallery), community sites with higher number of female users
At the very beginning, they began to spread the rumor of EXO members making misogyny remarks at their fanmeeting.
However, this is not true.
This rumor was made by 남연갤 (Male Celebrity Board in DC Gallery).
Below are the evidence

(T/N: 차돌박이 = this is not a misogyny word but users on 남연갤 made it up and gave a sexual meaning to it)

Morons, we failed because the b*tches posted before us regarding the 차돌박이 rumor
why are they planning this on us ㅡㅡ
the reactions to 차돌박이 post on the b*tches community site
did they post 차돌박이 post on their sites?

남연갤 users planned to write regarding 차돌박이 rumor on community sites with higher number of female users
차돌박이 is a slang created by 남연갤 users

This senior at work today said a really disgusting sexual joke

I was smoking when I went to work today
and this guy said "I like girls who are like 차돌박이" so I asked him why 차돌박이? and he replied

"because they cook fast eumhahahahaha"
that's what he said -_-

I really wanted to punch him in the face

(T/N: 차돌박이 (cha-dol-bak-ie) =  Beef Brisket)

This word is something which males don't even know about too

Username: 차돌박이

I really badly needed a massage so I went to Apgujeong... these days I visit there often and now I visit there naturally as if it's my home
at first, I felt uncomfortable visiting the place on my own but now I feel better going there by myself
the staffs even make room for me when I go there so I don't have to wait to get inside the room so it's better going there by yourself ㅋㅋ
Today was a Sunday morning so they had many customers during the morning hours.
But fortunately I was able to get inside the room without much delay
If you guys know this place you'll all know that they're the ace of this field with pretty faces and great massaging skills...

This was a post written by a person who frequently goes to enjoy with prostitutes;;; but they're insisting it's true with this post

Users who have IDs on Instiz, Yeosungsidae, Jjukbbang (both are Daum community cafes) and etc, what are you guys doing!!!

▲ the above images show how they're trying to spread the rumor by giving "차돌박이" a bad meaning. Also, the title of the posts asking to spread this rumor

post 차돌박이 on the female community sites

▲봋초=여초 (sites with higher number of female users). They're telling each other to spread the rumors they had created on female community sites

Let's spread the 차돌박이 massage story around, spread it around
▲post on 남연갤 asking the users to spread the rumor▲

You can see from the above images that this rumor began in 남연갤

they tried to frame "차돌박이" as a misogny word but even when you google this word you don't get any results that say this is a sexually harassing slang.

Also, the EXO member who said this word said "차돌구이" and not "차돌박이" .

(T/N: 차돌구이 Roasted Beef Brisket)

Also, these "some" people on Nate PANN planned to frame BTS fans as if they were the ones who were spreading the rumor.

But BTS fandom has nothing to do with this rumor

Rather, this is a comment which was left on 여성시대 (Yeosungsidae) which is a community cafe with higher number of female users could be the start of this rumor.

They had some word quiz at their fanmeeting and the answer was "차돌박이"
but suddely Chen asked the younger fans to close their ears and said "what did ? we eat todayㅋㅋㅋ" and Baekhyun said "this question is weird~" and they started laughing together ㅋㅋ
the fans didn't realize they were making sexual jokes and laughed with them
but they asked their Twitter friends when they came back home because they felt weird and asked their guy friends too and
차돌박이 = it's a slang for ladies who get easily aroused
I'm f*cking offended

Let's make this the top comment by commenting under this
ㄴ heol.. it's a sexual joke?!
ㄴ heol what did he say???
ㄴ heol..?? what was it??

▲ It's been confirmed that this comment left on Yeosungsidae was written by a person who was pretending to be EXO L. (it looks like this is the first comment to spread the rumor)▲

(red letters= rumor)
I went to CBX's fanmeeting and I stopped stanning Chen and Baekhyun when I heard their sexual joke ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ this time it's Do Kyungsoo ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㄴ (T/N: This is the same thing above, explaining the "fake" 차돌박이 meaning)

-did Baekhyun know the answer to this question?
-You need to be clear. Right now everyone's busy making assumptions because of your comment. Are you sure you will not change your words? Did Byun Baekhyun laugh because he knew the answer to the question?
-hey, you need to clarify this don't you think?
-(the person spreading the rumor) I thought Baekhyun laughed because he knew the answe but it's very fortunate if he didn't know. I'm sorry but that's how it was like from my point of view. I will talk to others who attended their fanmeeting.

- (rumor maker) I was offended and I was disappointed when I heard there was such slang because I wished they wouldn't make sexual jokes in front of their fans, regardless of the meaning. I was disappointed in them because of the ramyeon joke too. I still can't understand why they asked the younger fans to close their ears but since there are many readers here. I will apologize.
- are you Chen or Baekhyun? You don't even know with what intentions they said this so why are you spreading rumors?
-ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ is this an apology??? this is so frustrating ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ah ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ please get rid of your exo related nickname ^^

▲how it was revealed to be a rumor▲

BTS fandom did not attempt to spread this rumor and this all began with that comment on community cafe called Yeosungsidae.
However, "some" people of Nate PANN framed BTS fandom.

1) summary : BTS fandom has nothing to do with this rumor but they still tried to blame BTS fandom.

2) they planned to spread their fabricated materials on December 6th and 7th on Instiz, Jjukbbang, Yeosungsidae, etc but a Tanso (BTS ARMY nickname in Instiz) found this out and posted a clarification post before them.

3) some leaders of this rumor began to incite users on sites like Instiz and other community sites and claimed this rumor was spread by BTS fandom.

[PANN] 161209 So Jinyoung, Baekhyun, and V's fusion historical dramas

Recently I've been watching many historical dramas and these three have attempted in fusion historical drama, right?
Most characters played by idols end up dying... I mean it's not even like all characters around the lead character in historical dramas die in the end...

But they have something in common = that they're idols and they die in a very tragic way + they start as a very playful character but they turn into a sorrowful character when the drama reaches the second half and they make the viewers cry with their death
I think they're trying to make the story more relatable
(Jinyoung's character was sadder because he had so many secret crush scenes... of course, he was playful too ㅎㅎ)

When you compare the three characters, I don't think they play a very small role in the drama
But according to the history record, they all end up dying at some point ㅜㅜ..
so I can't help but wonder "maybe V's character would...?"
let me summarize

Yoonsung (Jinyoung) (Joseon- Crown Prince Hyomyeong) liked Raon but he pretends to kill Raon because his grandfather orders him to kill her but he dies because he tried to keep her safe. In the end, Raon and Lee Yeong got together... (sniffs)...

It was a happy ending but it was still sad. In the original work, Yoonsung appears again but I think they killed him on purpose in the drama ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ

The King (Baekhyun)
I searched about Baekhyun and I couldn't find much information about "Eun". But his grandfather killed him and his family for treason? 

But there is no record in any books and there is no grave either... ㅎ
I think they showed us the character of "Eun" with Baekhyun's acting. At first, I didn't understand the story so I thought the General was his grandfather ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I cried when Eun died ㅜㅜ

V's character is the last Jingol of the last Seok Family. 
(T/N: Jingol is the second rank in the Bone Rank System. Jingol = true bone, only one of the child's parents is a from the royal family.)
Jingol is a status of Silla Bone Rank System...
I think at the end of the drama when V's character ascends to the throne I think the others (characters) would go "yup, we'll get the throne when we get rid of him" and then kill him or kick him out 

So this is also why we don't have many people with the surname "Seok" and I think V will have many bad guys in the drama who keep him in check and I think the male actors of Hwarang will be the people protecting him from them

I'd like to tell the BTS fans who could be reading my post that this is just my guesses, there's not proof... please don't believe every word because these are my assumptions only. I mean, characters usually die in historical dramas so... it's based on history too...

Anyway, if you have time and if you haven't watched Love in the Moonlight or Moon Lovers, please do watch fusion historical dramas because they're fun ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ (me promoting unexpectedlyㅋㅋ)

There's a "Who are You?" writer involved in Love in the Moonlight and the genre of the drama is romance and strong youth so it's really sweet and fun. The ending of Moon Lovers was a bit disappointing but it was still really fun to watch ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ

After watching these dramas, I'm starting to like Baekhyun and Jinyoung and they're catching my eyes ㅎㅎ
I'm anticipating to see V-nim too since his drama will start soon
So I wish you'd leave me some Baekhyun, V, and Jinyoung gifs and photos...
make them historical theme if you can..♡ I don't mind even if you give me many too... ♡

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Response +226 -12

1. Kim Taehyung was asked to act but he just filmed his daily life ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ +176 -13
(gets scolded for sleeping until late, dances with hyungs, disses their master)

2. here +106 -11

3. wow... this gave me goosebumps...I cried when Jinyoung and Baekhyun died (in the drama). Their death made me sadder because all 3s characters are so cheerful ㅠㅠ Jinyoung ㅠㅠ Baehyun ㅠㅜ Taehyung ㅠㅜㅜ +77 -4

4. so very bright +48 -7

5. and I really, really loved Yoonsung's acting ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ +38 -1

6. Pleaseu let Hansung live without killing him...☆ +30 -3

7. I agree. I thought the same thing too ㅠㅠ I don't think Hansung's character will end nicely... it tears my heart... +24 -1

8. Eun's photo +13 -7

9. He said he wanted to be a man and his hyungs laughed +17 -1

[PANN] 161208 +) wow... did you watch the trailer of Hwarang The Beginning?

+) heol  daebak... this is my first Selected Talk post... wow...
thanks, guys!

They said Hyolin-nim, Yoseob-nim, Jin and V, Bolbbalgan Sachungi, and Han Donggeun-nim will be singing the Hwarang OST!
Oh man, I'm going to have so many new songs to listen to!

ahh it's Kim Taehyung and not V..!
I watched the trailer that just came up and...
really this is amazing...
he's so handsome...
I think he's a good actor too and I'm so looking forward to this drama Hwarang
Guys, do watch the premiere on 19th December!

First broadcast on December 19th. 
KBS2TV Mon-Tue Drama Hwarang  -Hansung's story-

[Misc] 161209 Hwarang (Hansung Character, Story, Character map)

"We smartened and named him Hwarang after selecting a man who is beautiful in appearance and when we made people serve him, followers gathered around like clouds. They occasionally polished each other's morals, enjoyed music and songs together, and landscape sightseeing. There was no place that wasn't visited by them no matter how far it might be. Through these process, they were able to know the right and wrong characters of these men. The person with  virtuous character among them was recommended to the Royal Court."

- Samguk Sagi (History of the Three Kingdoms) Book 4, Silla bongi (annals) 4, King Jinheung

This is the record of Hwarang in the history and records of few representative Hwarangs were recorded.

However, besides the names of these famous Hwarang no one knows about them in detail.

How did Hwarang begin?

How did these young men with beautiful visuals stand in the center of the Millennium Kingdom of Silla which unified the three kingdoms?
What could be the rites of passage these youths had to pass to become the spirit of Silla?

We are now going to unsolve these many questions.
About the youths who lived in the sixth century of Silla. 
The things which could not be kept in the records, we are about to start unwrapping the possible imaginations. 

It's the story of the friendship and love of Hwarangs.
Along with the growth story of these youths who try to create a new world beyond the bone rank system. 

And this is another myth. 

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HANSUNG cast Kim Taehyung

The youngest Hwarang in Hwarangdo. He is a person with an innocent face like an angel. He seeks to create harmonious relation wherever he might be with his warm and friendly personality. However, he is silly and very inquisitive. He doesn't care about other things or hear what others tell him when he concentrates in something. As Hwarangdo gradually becomes the driving force of the new country's future, this soft boy is loaded with heavy and lonely hardships of his family.

He meets Sunwoo when he becomes a Hwarang and he was a different person compared to the people Hansung had met until now. He was a person who would give his own shoes for the injured person when other looked down on him because he belongs in the low half-breed status. His favorable feelings for Sunwoo becomes larger beyond the bone rank system. Hansung starts depending on Sunwoo like his real elder brother.  For the first time, Hansung who used to be stuck between the fights of adults now has a dream and he tries to stand alone by himself.

(T/N: Sunwoo is the character played by actor Park Seojoon.)

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